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Can't get retURL on Save to work

I'm trying to redirect the user to a particular page when saving a new record.  Since the new record is being created from a custom button, it seem like I should be able to just include the retURL parameter.  I can't get it to work though, no matter what is in the retURL parameter, saving brings the user to the record just saved.  I know it's not a syntax error because using the same exact retURL parameter when editing a record works fine. 

Example of new record url (does not work as expected):

Example of edit record url (works as expected):

Am I missing something?  Is there really no way to redirect a user when saving a new record?
Nevermind, just needed the saveURL parameter instead