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2400% surcharge to sync SF and Mac (Address Book and iCal), but Microsoft one is free

I want my native address book and native calendar to do bi-directional sync with Salesforce.  If I were on a PC, I'd have it for free.  Since I'm on a Mac, I have to do a 2400% price upgrade.

Well, that's not entirely true.  If I wanted to take a huge step *backwards*, I could install Entourage, and my Mac, but who wants a PC-compatible Mac?  That's laughable, and the reason I left my PC. But if I did take that giant step backwards, I could get Mac bi-sync for native address book and calendar just like the PC folks do.

But Macs have such nice integration to their own address book and calendar that I didn't want to break that integration just to get a better SF integration, so I went searching around on the net.

And I found Riva Integration Server.  It comes in two flavors: server software for the big (or old school) folks who want to buy/install/maintain/own their own software, and SaaS for the little (or new school) for folks who just want to use it as a service.

Hallelujah.  I've seen the promised land.  I'll drink the SF cool-aid.  I've got religion.  I've heard that cloud computing is the wave of the future!  So I signed up for the service.  Yeah.  

Aside: Riva Integration Servier even has a compelling technical architecture.  It is *not* an integration to my applications (iCal and Mail.app), so I don't even need to install anything (i.e. infect my computer).  It integrates via a protocol over the network.  A very common protocol: Exchange Server.  Yes.  Macs now have Exchange Server (as of 10.6, Snow Leopard).  That means that I can use a native Mac program (iCal or Mail) tto access any Exchange Server application.  In general, that's likely to be a corporate mail server, but (drum roll please) in the case of Riva Integration Server (wait for it. wait for it.  big crecendo), it *looks* like it's a mail server, but it *acts* like (big bass drum crash here) a bridge to Salesforce.  Brilliant!  By integrating at the protocol layer instead of the application layer (anyone remember their ISO stacks), they've pulled a major coup d' etat!  The Riva product can work for any Exchange Server product, including old-fashioned MSFT stuff, or new-fashioned Mac stuff.  They can host it in the cloud.  I can subscribe to the service and be a happy bi-directional syncing camper.

But... hold onto your seats.

I found that SF blocks my Riva access because I'm just a little guy, and even though they like little guys to bi-sync their MSFT address and calendar, they don't allow little guys to bi-sync their Mac address and calendar.  Full disclosure: I'm blurring the technical facts and stating the end effect.  I'l get back to the technology in a while, but let's jump to the economics.

Here's what I wanted:
  Salesforce Contact Manger: $5/month
  Riva Live Integration Server: $10/month

Here's what I have to do to get bi-sync integration:
  Salesforce Enterprise: $125/month
  Riva Live Integration Server: $10/month

Yup.  In order to integrate to native Mac address and calendar, I have to upgrade by 3 levels, skipping Group and Professional, and going directly to Enterprise, one level shy of Unlimited.  That's an insideous Mac integration surcharge for something that comes (albeit not so elegantly) for free with PCs!

So I called Salesforce, and heard (in effect):  "We can't let you use the Riva integration to bi-sync your address book and calendar because that would be giving away the whole API".

BUT..... I don't want the whole API.  I just want to bi-sync integration for my address and calendar, like the Microsofties do.  I just want a little, itty-bitty, tinsy-winsy hole through it to sync my address and calendar.  So I asked my Account Executive if she could flip the API bit, not for the full-blown API, but just for Riva Live Integration Server.

No dice.  No way.  No can do.  No way around it.  Pony up 25X (or at least 5X) your monthly investment, and you can have it for free.  :-0  

So.... I'm bummed.

$5 (or $25) Salesforce is the right size for me
$10 Riva Live bridge is the right size for me

It "feels" like there should be a way to make that work.

But.... SF can't (or won't) support this.

So.... If you're on a Mac, and you want native support for address book and calendar apps, there is still no solution.

THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO INTEGRATE NATIVE MAC ADDRESS BOOK AND CALENDAR APPLICATIONS WITH SALESFORCE!!!
THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO INTEGRATE NATIVE MAC ADDRESS BOOK AND CALENDAR APPLICATIONS WITH SALESFORCE!!!
THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO INTEGRATE NATIVE MAC ADDRESS BOOK AND CALENDAR APPLICATIONS WITH SALESFORCE!!!

Gee, it sure would be nice to have it as good as the MSFT folks have it.  ;-)

Salesforce product managers?  Anyone listening?  You don't need to develop this bi-sync integration:  Omni Technology has already done it for you.  You just need to live-and-let-live, and let SF and Mac live in harmony.  

Please?!

SuperfellSuperfell

If Riva gets their application certified, then they'd be able to support users that don't have direct API access (like group edition etc).

hartmoodxhartmoodx

We use Appirio to bi-sync calendar from  salesforce.com with Google calendar. Works great and for free if you can stand a two hours gap in the free edition.

 

And with sf cubed you have all the  salesforce.com adresses in you Mac adress book, with sync on your Iphone. Not automatically but with a manual sync once a week it is ok with me.

 

Regards,

Bernd 

 

 

AldoZAldoZ

Hello, Simon.

 

Riva Integration Server is certified. 

http://sites.force.com/appexchange/listingDetail?listingId=a0N30000001srGuEAI

Even if an application is certified, API support is only available for Salesforce Professional, Enterprise and Unlimited editions.

Best regards,

 

 

Aldo

--
Aldo Zanoni
CEO, Managing Director
Omni Technology Solutions Inc.
The Integration Company
www.omni-ts.com

 

 

sfadmin1.2531195399833853E12sfadmin1.2531195399833853E12

Aldo,

 

SF customer support said the API was only supported for Enterprise and Unlimited (i.e. *not* Professional).  That's consistent with the pricing matrix here: http://www.salesforce.com/crm/editions-pricing.jsp.  When we spoke the other day, you said Riva worked with the top *3* levels, but I've been hearing that it only works with the top *2*.

 

Either way, I am locked out at my price point.  I'd like to use it with the Contact Manager edition.  (Don't tell my SF Sales Manager, but I'd even upgrade my SF account to Group edition just to get the Riva integration.  It would be worth it to me to pay extra, even though I got no (useful to me) additonal SF functionality.  ;-)

 

Thanks,

Michael Wolf

 

 

 

 

sfadmin1.2531195399833853E12sfadmin1.2531195399833853E12

Simon,

 

Since Riva Integration Server *is* certified, how do I take *direct* advantage Riva Live (their SaaS access to Riva), which makes *direct* calls to the API, thus making me an *indirect* user of the SF API?

 

Thanks,

Michael Wolf

 

Tomasz OczapowskiTomasz Oczapowski

Michael,

You can procure Web Services API as add-on to Professional Edition as well. 

Talk to your Account Executive about pricing.

Tomasz